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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:14:01 -
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In an effort to offer more officially supported ways to play EVE on Mac we are now providing support for Wine in addition to Cider. DonGÇÖt worry, weGÇÖre not simply posting a long page of instructions for you to set up Wine GÇô the launcher takes care of it all. To begin with we offer this as an alternative to the current solution GÇô you simply select it in the EVE Launcher Preferences. We will continue providing Cider, the current solution, until we are satisfied with Wine providing a similar experience.
What is Wine?
As stated on www.winehq.org Wine is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows application on several POSIX-compliant operating systems, such as Linux, Mac OSX and BSD. Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop.
How do I try it?
Make sure your launcher is up to date (version 1016420 or later). Select Preferences... from the EVE Launcher menu and select Wine for the wrapper.
Wine options
You shouldn't have to change any Wine options, and these may change at any time as we get feedback.
For now, the main option is what version of Wine should be used - we provide daily builds from the Wine git repository (git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git). If you select 'Use dev versions' you can choose any of a number of recent daily builds, or to always use the latest one. If you leave the dev versions checkbox unchecked, you can select from stable builds that will have had some testing.
The WINEDEBUG field allows you to set a value for the WINEDEBUG environment variable that controls debugging output from Wine. This can be useful for tracking down issues, but should in general be left empty.
What if it doesn't work?
Go back to Preferences and select Cider for the wrapper, then everything should work as it did before. Please do tell us about it, either by posting in the feedback thread or by filing a bug report. Our goal is to offer additional officially supported ways to play EVE on the Mac and we need your feedback on this to do that.
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Posted - 2016.03.07 18:21:03 -
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Known issues
- Settings profiles don't migrate automatically
- Launcher needs to be restarted after changing wrapper type
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Posted - 2016.03.07 20:54:47 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Maxwell wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:As it did not work for me, I'm wondering if I am missing something.
Does telling the launcher to use Wine result in it downloading EVERYTHING needed to run Eve under Wine, including Wine, like it does for Cider? Or do I need to go to the Wine website and download other stuff as well? The launcher should take care of everything. It would be interesting to see your logs. You mean evelogs.log? Where should I send it?
There are files called launcherlogs-timestamp.txt - unfortunately I don't have a Mac at home and don't remember where they're located. Probably /Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher, or something like that. Put them in a Dropbox or Google Drive and send me the link in EVE mail - don't post it here, the logs may have more detail than you're comfortable with posting publically.
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Posted - 2016.03.07 22:29:01 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Limyh Oteo wrote:...........
- one additional minus - can't use mac keyboard shortcuts -command + c and command +v or command + q. I can live without them, but if at all possible - those would be nice. Still totally worth it.
+ addtional plus - IGB does not get stuck on the black screen. At least it has not for me. Do the PC versions work, where you use control instead of command?
Control key ought to work. I'll see what I can do about enabling Command key as well.
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Posted - 2016.03.07 23:37:54 -
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Lizzie Lefthand Marstolt wrote:Except too bad I couldn't get it to work yet myself... Submitted bug report: EBR-71036
Are you on OS X 10.9 by any chance?
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Posted - 2016.03.08 20:02:37 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Invisusira wrote:Azeta wrote:Apoq Surrat wrote:I just tried this on my Mac Pro 2012, Nvidia GTX 680 with latest Nvidia Web Driver, running El Capitan 10.11.3.
The new launcher works fine with Cider, but when i switch it to Wine, it copies files, then says its ready, but will not start the game. When I click to play, the play symbol next to my name turns to a square, my name turns green along with the line under it. It then just sits there for about 45 seconds, then changes back to normal as if I never clicked anything. Did you re-start the launcher? This was listed as a known issue on the first post in this thread. I did so after the wine files were copied and it started right up. It's a known issue, but not a solved one. Rebooting the client/launcher/computer does nothing to solve it. He is the first one to report having it with 10.11. CCP Snorlax has been able to reproduce the issue, and is working on it. (We have been eve mailing each other). Just now I noted Wine 1.8 showed up in the list in the preferences, three versions (two in the Dev version list). I tried them all. None worked for me.
This is taking a bit longer than I hoped, but should be sorted tomorrow. For some reason I'm expected to have a life outside of work as well...
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Posted - 2016.03.09 15:44:24 -
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I've published a new Wine build, built from the stable branch (1.8.1). This build runs on the one machine I found inhouse where the previous build would fail.
I'm curious to see if this improves the situation for anyone that was unable to run before - please report back!
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Posted - 2016.03.09 17:16:36 -
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Black Pedro wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:I've published a new Wine build, built from the stable branch (1.8.1). This build runs on the one machine I found inhouse where the previous build would fail.
I'm curious to see if this improves the situation for anyone that was unable to run before - please report back! Didn't work yesterday. Works today. Good job! Runs well too. The only problem I noticed in the few minutes I played around with it is that no numbers show up in the market history graph display.
Please file a bug report from within the game, with screenshots. It's easy to lose track of things reported in forum threads and I want to be sure to fix those issues!
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Posted - 2016.03.10 16:56:30 -
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Het Silenius wrote:I haven't been able to get it to work on 10.9.5. I do currently have EVE installed via WineBottler, though. Would that cause a conflict?
It shouldn't. I'd be curious to see your launcher logs. Can you dig them up and put in a Dropbox (or Google Drive) and send me the link in EVE Mail?
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Posted - 2016.03.12 12:14:26 -
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Sunrise Aigele wrote:I decided to load Captain's Quarters while running Project Discovery, to which I am hopelessly addicted. Invariably, after perhaps ten to fifteen minutes of normal function, Project Discovery will become unable to load slides, and LogLite will fill up with over 300 messages per minute, all of them saying, "[f]ailed to set RenderTarget to slot 0." It is occasionally interspersed with the error, "[f]failed to get a valid ballpark in time after trying 30 times." (CQ has a ballpark?! Where?!  ) After a couple of minutes of this, the client becomes unresponsive, and I have to force quit to terminate it. Then, invariably, I get the message that "There was an error writing a file to disk." I have worked around this by loading the hangar instead. (Note: I do not have to be running Project Discovery to get the RenderTarget error. That is merely what I was doing when I noticed it.)
I'll see if we can reproduce this in the office. I've been in CQ without errors, but it may depend on settings and/or the OS X version and hardware used. I'd appreciate if you could file a bug report, give me your system details and attach a saved log from LogLite.
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Posted - 2016.03.14 17:28:07 -
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Ronald Sotken wrote:Since switching to the wine wrapper I've noticed that sometimes when warping/jumping into a system, the video that is displayed on the billboards will play in full screen. I haven't been able to determine the trigger for this, but it seems to occur when commencing warp, or alt+clicking in space. I have found no way to remove it without restarting the client. See the following to get an idea of what I'm talking about, http://imgur.com/a/NGf94
And here is the screenshots of the billboards displaying the same images, http://imgur.com/a/wSK2Z
I'm playing on a 2012 macbook pro using the wine wrapper. Seems someone else on page 4 is having this issue as well. Any advice on a workaround/fix would be greatly appreciated.
I will look into this.
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Posted - 2016.03.15 16:27:58 -
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XSrederX wrote:experiencing the resolution and random game videos glitches. Have a 2007 Mac Pro with a GTX 950 (non-native/flashed) the client does not recognize my video card in wine but does in Cider perhaps that is the source of some of my issues?
Please file a bug report, attaching the logs from ~/Library/Application Support/CCP/EVE/Launcher. Send me the ID of the report to ensure I get it right away.
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Posted - 2016.03.16 09:34:33 -
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Bast Antollare wrote:Not sure if this is a problem but it seems odd. When I run "shared cache settings" under "settings", it finds about 2500 extra files, which it then deletes. Then when I restart the launcher it downloads about 2500 files. The client does start immediately after the files are deleted (without restarting the launcher) and seems to work fine. Yet, once I close the launcher and restart it, it downloads those 2500 files again. Screen cap of log files: log 1log 2
Thanks for reporting this. I think I know what is going on, I'll look into this.
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Posted - 2016.03.19 18:21:59 -
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Xerxes Fehrnah wrote:Eve is much better under wine. Thank you for this update. It means a lot.
A feature request for wine support on Mac: Every time I start the launcher, it downloads a new version of wine --devel. It's spending a considerable amount of my Comcast data allotment. It would be nice to have a toggle switch that would allow me to reject updates to wine except on a daily, every other day, or as wanted basis.
I understand why Eve updates are essential in real time, as we all need to be on the same version, but wine updates could be throttled or ignored entirely unless some critical update is present that fixes a bug.
TL;DR: let me set the launcher to "notify me about wine updates available, and allow me to decide to reject or accept them."
Thanks again CCP_Snorlax!!!
The Wine versions will stabilize soon. It shouldn't be downloading every time, though, unless maybe if you have selected latest dev builds. Try unchecking 'dev builds' for the Wine wrapper. You can also select a specific build, rather than latest, and it will stick to that.
The current version spends a fair amount of time verifying the files every time, though - that is already addressed in the latest dev version of the launcher that I will deploy next week.
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Posted - 2016.03.20 12:35:20 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:I am unable to start client via wine wrapper at all. Every times I start launcher it copies wine files. Yesterday when I started launcher after a week of not using it and I tried to start client, MacOSX told me I need X11 server to start explorer.exe and I should go and download it. So I did - I downloaded X11 from http://www.xquartz.org, installed it but to no effect. I will raise a bug soon, I just need to find 3 minutes to get to these damn launcher logfiles... ;)
I'll release an update next week that I'm hoping will resolve those issues.
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Posted - 2016.03.20 13:00:12 -
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Johny Rambo wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Johny Rambo wrote:I am unable to start client via wine wrapper at all. Every times I start launcher it copies wine files. Yesterday when I started launcher after a week of not using it and I tried to start client, MacOSX told me I need X11 server to start explorer.exe and I should go and download it. So I did - I downloaded X11 from http://www.xquartz.org, installed it but to no effect. I will raise a bug soon, I just need to find 3 minutes to get to these damn launcher logfiles... ;) I'll release an update next week that I'm hoping will resolve those issues. Shall I hold on until then with raising the bug report (assuming it will not fix the problems)? I am very happy you are looking into make Mac users lives better, so I don't want to cause additional workload by raising tickets for supporting that may be fixed in few days :) EDIT: I enabled client logging and that's what I ended up with in Eve LogLite: http://imgur.com/ZTZv1u7
Just hold on, I'll post here once the update is out. The symptoms match with what I've seen before.
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Posted - 2016.03.22 10:55:43 -
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I've updated Wine and the launcher, see https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6405274#post6405274
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Posted - 2016.03.22 12:39:36 -
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Arlyn Nightblade wrote:Thanks Snorlax!
Any update on the strange resolution always changing in windowed mode whenever you launch a new insane of the client?
Do you mean the window growing slightly whenever you launch? I have fixed that in the client itself, that will be included in the next release, sometime soon after Easter.
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Posted - 2016.03.22 13:37:23 -
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Planeten Schreck wrote:Still not working for me: (but the error changed form the last Version)
10.9.5 Mac Pro #5780 GPU:
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Can you send me the full log in EVE mail? It's best if you put it in a Dropbox, Google Drive or something like that and mail me the link.
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Posted - 2016.03.22 20:47:13 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:And as a result, it now no longer works for me. No XQuartz, but no client either. If I set it to Wine 1.8.1, it does work for me, and does run XQuartz.
Can you try the Wine versions available when you check Use dev versions under the Wine settings?
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Posted - 2016.03.22 22:14:43 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:And as a result, it now no longer works for me. No XQuartz, but no client either. If I set it to Wine 1.8.1, it does work for me, and does run XQuartz. Can you try the Wine versions available when you check Use dev versions under the Wine settings? That took awhile. Change wine preference, close launcher, open launcher, let files be updated, try to run it, wait for it to not work, close launcher, open launcher, try and run it again, wait for it to not work, change wine preferences. Repeat. And none of them worked. The only one that works is the non-Dev 1.8.1 - test. Even that one has issues. It creates a window that is half off my screen. I cannot see the right half. Fortunately, I can get to the esc menu and change the window to full screen, then back to fix it.
Alright, thanks for trying!
I'll do some more testing on 10.9, may ask you do more testing for me later, if you haven't given up on me yet.
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Posted - 2016.03.24 12:22:59 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more.
Yes, I did, in the default Wine version.
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Posted - 2016.03.24 13:23:10 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, did you change something some in which the command key works again?
If you did. I love you even more. Yes, I did, in the default Wine version. You deserve a dozen cookies... Thank you
Chocolate chip, please :)
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Posted - 2016.03.25 20:49:30 -
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Dom Aumer wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Configuring the EVE client to run under WINE worked without a hitch, but I'm unable to access the general settings menu (ESC) to reconfigure anything. I just turns the screen greyscale and nothing appears. The lack of this menu and the functionality of command keys is a deal killer at this point, unfortunately. That and the ability to import existing settings. I seemed to be having the same issue. Windows (including the Esc -> settings window) weren't properly stacking and windows disappeared upon trying to open/close things (i.e. they were there since I could see tooltips but the windows themselves were invisible). This was only an issue when I was out in space, not in the character selection screen. My character normally was logged out in a POS and I found when I docked/undocked the in-space window issues were fixed (one time I had to dock/undock twice).
Please file a bug report in game right after this happens, I need to see logs. Even better if you have full logs from LogLite - attach to the bug report.
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Posted - 2016.03.27 22:18:54 -
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Apoq Surrat wrote:WINE had been working, but during one of the recent updates it quit. Clicking play now just turns the bar green for a while, then it goes back to blue. This is using the "latest" version option on two different MacPro systems I have, one with Nvidia GTX 680, and other with ATI Radeon 5870, both running El Capitan 10.11.4.
Hopefully the after-easter patch will help things.
Until then, I'm back to using Cider.
Also... Thanks so much CCP Snorlax for helping us Mac users !
Try switching the Wine version to 1.8.1-test instead of latest - let me know if that changes anything.
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Posted - 2016.04.03 23:52:36 -
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Invisusira wrote:I randomly get sessions where I have to use my control key instead of my command key as a modifier for things like select all, copy, paste, etc. Seems completely random and happens maybe 1 in 5 or 6 sessions? Submitted bug report.
Make sure you don't have the dev versions of Wine enabled.
The dev versions are built automatically from 3 different repos, only one of which has my changes. If you have the dev versions enabled, with Latest selected, you will be somewhat randomly jumping between the CCP fork of Wine (which has the keyboard mapping fixed) or the original Wine repo from either the development or the stable branch. The ability to select from these dev builds is primarily to enable us to test different versions.
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Posted - 2016.04.05 10:43:50 -
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Mad Mabata wrote:Overall, the game 'feels' smoother and less laggy using the wine client. Switch to wine went easy (but was hard to find), maybe it should be under the launcher settings? However, I have two problems / bugs: - Game crashes when I jump from gate to gate in high-sec. This has also been the case in cider - My tripwire through the IGB does not work. I am in contact with the tripwire developer, here's a link to the issue: https://bitbucket.org/daimian/tripwire/issues/111/igb-shows-only-text-after-upgrading-to
The latter is kind of a pain... because it makes wormhole life very miserable and actually makes me consider going back to cider.
I'm guessing this has to do with https, I'll investigate.
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Posted - 2016.04.09 21:36:36 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Invisusira wrote:I randomly get sessions where I have to use my control key instead of my command key as a modifier for things like select all, copy, paste, etc. Seems completely random and happens maybe 1 in 5 or 6 sessions? Submitted bug report. Make sure you don't have the dev versions of Wine enabled. The dev versions are built automatically from 3 different repos, only one of which has my changes. If you have the dev versions enabled, with Latest selected, you will be somewhat randomly jumping between the CCP fork of Wine (which has the keyboard mapping fixed) or the original Wine repo from either the development or the stable branch. The ability to select from these dev builds is primarily to enable us to test different versions. Is this related in any way at all to the dev versions of Beer?
Those are only available at Fanfest :)
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Posted - 2016.04.10 21:12:58 -
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Weenheen wrote:First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels.
Yes, it's a known issue - it's on the top of my list.
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Posted - 2016.04.14 15:51:15 -
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I'm working on the SSL issue, hope to have to resolved soon.
I'd love to see logs from crashes when jumping gates. If you run with LogLite (enable 'Run clients with logging' in launcher settings), then save the log and attach it to a bug report. Put my name in the title or send me the report id so I get it right away.
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Posted - 2016.04.21 10:00:21 -
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Niobe Maken wrote:Unfortunately, it is impossible for me to play EVE Online with WINE, because although I come into play in but everything is just black. It is also not possible a ticket to create or change settings.
IMac late 2013
3,4 GHz Intel Core i5
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 775M 2048 MB
Wine : Released
Launcher: 1024032
GUI: 1.907
Help needed^^
Please file a bug report with logs:
Go to settings in the launcher, enable 'Run clients with logging'. This will then start up LogLite when you press Play. Once the game has started, let it sit for a minute or so on the black screen, then go to LogLite and save the log.
Then go here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/ and fill in the report (mention my name in the title so I can find it quickly), with as much detail as you can and attach the log file you just saved.
I'll take a look as soon as I can and see if the logs give me a clue as to what is going wrong.
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Posted - 2016.04.21 10:17:36 -
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Slickrock Wildlight wrote:EVE unplayable right now.
Updated my system (MacPro2013) to 10.11.4, and it started wigging out. (Prior to the update, I was getting the frequent crashes others have reported).
Under Cider, which had been the default setup, no graphics would load, I'd only get overlay screens. So I found this thread, told the launcher to download all files to improve performance, and switch to Wine.
Wine looks, nicer, but one fatal flaw. No overlays will work. Hit the button for them, and you see them appear to zoom to minimize. I've tried with and without DX9, and multiple Wine versions. Same problem.
Also, when it was in fullscreen on my two-monitor system, the billboard that you see when you are docked would take up the whole screen. Windowed mode got rid of that.
Help!!!
I need to see logs - see post above for details on how to file a bug report with logs.
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Posted - 2016.04.21 18:24:15 -
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Niobe Maken wrote:Everytime I try to upload a file (5.3MB) your system told me after 100% "Upload failed"
external file link added
Report is up
I think I know what-¦s going on - Wine is underestimating available video memory. For now, you could try disabling post-processing. It's a bit bit tricky when there's nothing visible on screen, though. If the client works under Cider you could try switching back, changing settings, then going to Wine again.
I should be able to address this in Wine sometime next week.
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Niobe Maken wrote:Post-processing disabled in cider and then switch to WINE - still black screen.
Right, settings are stored in a different place, forgot about that. After you've changed this in Cider you need to copy your settings again. In Preferences in the launcher is a big button labeled 'Copy client settings from Cider to Wine'. Press that after switching back to Wine.
Again, I'm hoping to sort this out next week - this convoluted process is just a temporary workaround.
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Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax, been having issues that last few days where jumping gates once again is locking up the screen so I can rotate my view tell I change camera type.
Started up after I logged into my alt to do some MCT, had issues on her and now on the main again. This might now be your department but thought you should know.
Happens in Orbit camera mode - have to switch to tactical (might take two to three changes)
Please file a bug report with logs:
Go to settings in the launcher, enable 'Run clients with logging'. This will then start up LogLite when you press Play. Once you experience the camera issue, then go to LogLite and save the log.
Then go here: https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/ and fill in the report (mention my name in the title so I can find it quickly), with as much detail as you can and attach the log file you just saved.
I'll take a look as soon as I can and see if the logs give me a clue as to what is going wrong, and get the dev who worked on the camera to help if needed.
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Posted - 2016.04.26 23:58:31 -
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Kevin Felixio wrote:Hiya,
First of all, having wine support is amazing! Cider has been gradually doing a worse and worse job of actually performing will, with random FPS drops and taking an ungodly amount of time when undocking, which have all been fixed for me now.
Secondly, I have noticed that "Hide Wine" does not have a shortcut associated with it. Is this a global issue or is this something related to my personal setup? I have currently fixed this issue by adding a custom shortcut in my system preferences.
Lastly, is there a way for me to manually input the window resolution I want? My secondary monitors are only 21" while my iMac is a 27", and I can only choose from resulotions that 'fit' my 27".
With regards,
Kevin
You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right?
What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
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Kevin Felixio wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:
You know you can resize the window under Wine by dragging on the edges, right?
What do you mean by "Hide Wine"?
I'm afraid it's not letting me resize. It's showing me the little resize window curser but nothing happens when I drag.
OK, that's something I haven't seen. Guess I'll need to do some testing with multiple monitors.
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Slickrock Wildlight wrote:Having new problems with the system map since the patch. Unless I turn off post-processing completely, it's a total graphics disaster.
Working with it more today.. it's a disaster. What's the worst is the map. Can only get the map to load 25% of the time.
It really seems that it's overall memory issues.. I checked the memory usage while Wine/EVE was running, and it wasn't high at all, barely over 1G.. is it simply not getting enough memory allocated? Or is it a graphics memory issue?
Try the following, to ensure the Wine environment is properly set up:
Open the shared cache folder (View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders. Note that if you delete the wineenv folder you will lose all settings. If you want to maintain client settings you can delete everything from within wineenv except drive_c/users.
It seems that updating Wine versions is not a 100% reliable - I'm working on improving this in the launcher.
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Posted - 2016.05.20 19:01:43 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:Weenheen wrote:First, the new Wine option runs very fine for me and my 5 year old iMac, made me subscribe from trial!
The only bug I could detect is that the market history graph's axes are no longer labeled. The graph is there alright, but you can't make heads an tails out of it without those labels. Yes, it's a known issue - it's on the top of my list. CCP Snorlax, is this still at the top of your list? I'm still missing the labels.
Apologies. I thought that fix was out. I'll take another look.
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Syrix Death wrote:CCP Snorlax wrote:In an effort to offer more officially supported ways to play EVE on Mac we are now providing support for Wine in addition to Cider. Could we please have a *.dmg-like launcher for debian too? It's really awsome you guys make such efforts for MAC users. But i think it is really important to give also debian users a launcher for EVE. Especially since DX9 support is going to phase out.
Have you seen this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503381#post6503381
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Grella Khurelem wrote:Wine looks fine, but there are problems in a windowed environment that forced me to switch back so I can use multiple clients.
The problems are with every button on the screen. The location of where they are activated seem to be off by a half-inch or so on the screen. I'm assuming that this is related to the window bar, but I'm not exactly sure.
I've also not been able to get multiple clients to run at the same time either, but I'll need to try that again another day.
I've noticed this intermittently when running on my laptop, but haven't yet seen a reliable repro, making it hard to track down. When this has happened, resizing the window has resolved the issue. I know this isn't ideal, but it's a workaround at least.
I will keep an eye on this issue and see if I can fix it. If anyone runs into this and finds a reliable repro case I'd be very interested to hear about it.
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Posted - 2016.06.09 14:24:49 -
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zuranus wrote:Linux user here ,just installed the new launcher (1045952.1.948) with wine and was successfull launching the game but
no luck with saving/copying my settings.
Hope to see wine option in the launcher for my Linux machine
Good work CCP!
You mean like this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6503381#post6503381 ?
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Posted - 2016.07.13 09:49:30 -
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Amarisen Gream wrote:It has been a few days (weeks) since we have heard from our CCP Snorlax! Just wanna know how things are going on the development side.
And wanna know if you need any testers for updated wine versions
I've been on vacation, just got back to work yesterday, hence my radio silence. With my batteries fully charged I'm now investigating the sticky control key issue.
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Posted - 2016.07.18 10:30:52 -
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eVRiAL wrote:CCP guys, do you ever played on Mac client? It crashes with buffer overflow every second alt-tab I make.
Another issue, character customization - after selection of clothing shader effects disable completely and everything except eyes turns black.
Yes, we do, but it may not be on a system exactly like yours, or with the same settings as you have.
Please give us more details by filing a bug report and we will investigate.
Are you playing under Wine? Many players report improved stability after switching to the Wine wrapper as described in the first post in this thread.
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Posted - 2016.07.19 16:22:08 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:This most likely has been asked and answered, but...15 pages.....
Every time I start up eve I get asked if I want to allow wineserver to connect. How do I stop those requests?
In System Preferences, Security and Privacy, Firewall, I have wineserver listed as "allow incoming connections". What else is needed?
Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful.
I haven't seen this, and don't recall other reports about this. I need to investigate and ask around inhouse.
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Alicia Dnari wrote:Well, for one thing, some of us haven't been able to get Wine to work.
I run Windows 10 in Parallels on this Mac, for access to things like EveMon and EVE-IPH. In theory, that shouldn't cause problems with either Cider or Wine, especially when I'm not actually running Windows, but I dunno, maybe it does with Wine.
I'd like to hear more details about why Wine doesn't work for you. Most players so far report improved stability and performance.
Can you give it another try and report back with details of your issue? Remember that you can log in to Singularity, our test server, if you are concerned about crashing at a bad time.
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Alicia Dnari wrote:I tried it again. It crashed on startup again. This was in loglite: Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed (0x80000101) for b1056508, minidump written and uploaded in C:\users\blackshoe\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\ce6268e5-0b57-45df-86a0-908df151402a.dmp but I haven't been able to find that file. I did submit a bug report a few minutes ago.
Thanks, saw the report. Could you attach full logs from LogLite?
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Alicia Dnari wrote:I tried it again. It crashed on startup again. This was in loglite: Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed (0x80000101) for b1056508, minidump written and uploaded in C:\users\blackshoe\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\ce6268e5-0b57-45df-86a0-908df151402a.dmp but I haven't been able to find that file. I did submit a bug report a few minutes ago. Thanks, saw the report. Could you attach full logs from LogLite?
One thing to try - go to the shared cache folder (from the View menu, Reveal in Finder, Shared Cache) and delete the wine and wineenv folders, then restart the launcher and try again.
I appreciate your patience in helping me track this down.
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Wedge Yamamoto wrote:The launcher kept bugging me to try Wine so I thought I would try it out. I did and I want to switch back to Cider to compare. But I can't figure out how to switch back. It seems the option to change the wrapper no longer appears in the settings menu for the launcher. How do I switch back? I'm using launcher version 1057794.
It's in the launcher Preferences.
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Vincent Athena wrote:
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Oh, And CCP Snorlax, are we going to get command-click mapped to secondary click? I tend to fumble finger the double-tap sufficiently often that having command-click mapped to secondary click would be quite helpful.
I'm working on this issue now, hope to have a fix in a day or two.
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Posted - 2016.09.05 11:18:20 -
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DanIstheman wrote:Hi there tested wine running good in my legacy mac book pro.
Settings all low except shade, to se metallic effect, that is on medium.
Question: i downloaded the full game today, and the launcher started X11 , i have it installed before.
Does your wine version should use your own x11???
wine-debug must be in blank?
Any config tips?
Wrapper detection mac drivers graph card, no need check DX
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lol post forum timer.
X11 is a fallback - the native Mac driver is failing for some reason. Would be interested in seeing logs - please file a bug report and attach the launcher logs. It's easiest to find them by going to the View menu in the launcher, Reveal in Finder, Launcher Logs.
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DanIstheman wrote:Hi Does anyone solved or has, the mouse clicking issue on el Capitan with wine?
*Sometimes cant click on space
*Sometimes camera stay fixed
*Market windows has clicking delay
*Cant click under windowed mode
Starting to think in not pay next month fee...
I would be interested in seeing logs - please file a bug report and attach the launcher logs. It's easiest to find them by going to the View menu in the launcher, Reveal in Finder, Launcher Logs.
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Amarisen Gream wrote:CCP Snorlax must be super busy. We haven't heard from him in a while. Wonder if all those log-lite files are helping.
Yeah, sorry, been quite busy. I'll get back to Wine issues in a few days.
Make sure you have the latest non-dev version of Wine selected in the launcher preferences. Latest dev can be quite unstable and can jump between three different branches so I don't recommend using that except for testing specific versions.
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Bodaaa wrote:wango Maken wrote:I'm using Macbook Pro. I found that the maximum resolution I can reach is 1440x851 under window mode. The full screen mode works fine but I cant play multi-characters under fullscreen. The icons in window mode are extremely big because of the resolution. It works fine using cider. Hope you can solve this problem. This continues one of the biggest issues for a few of us. The variable that could be at play is the resolution settings in the OS under System Preferences. I have it at default which on a 15" retina is 1440x900 "pixel doubled". Probably this is what wine does capture as my resolution instead of 2880x1800 it should look at. So as Wine is not recognizing the underlying resolution correctly in windowed mode and shrinks game down while MacOS magnifies it up again for retina. Tried playing around with DPI settings in the cfg files ("LogPixels" setting), but had no impact. Hope we can solve this. I miss playing multiple clients at 2560x1440 windowed.
I think there is a way to control this behavior in Wine, via the registry. I don't remember the details right now - I'll investigate and see if I can introduce a setting in the launcher for this.
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Bodaaa wrote:wango Maken wrote:I'm using Macbook Pro. I found that the maximum resolution I can reach is 1440x851 under window mode. The full screen mode works fine but I cant play multi-characters under fullscreen. The icons in window mode are extremely big because of the resolution. It works fine using cider. Hope you can solve this problem. This continues one of the biggest issues for a few of us. The variable that could be at play is the resolution settings in the OS under System Preferences. I have it at default which on a 15" retina is 1440x900 "pixel doubled". Probably this is what wine does capture as my resolution instead of 2880x1800 it should look at. So as Wine is not recognizing the underlying resolution correctly in windowed mode and shrinks game down while MacOS magnifies it up again for retina. Tried playing around with DPI settings in the cfg files ("LogPixels" setting), but had no impact. Hope we can solve this. I miss playing multiple clients at 2560x1440 windowed. I think there is a way to control this behavior in Wine, via the registry. I don't remember the details right now - I'll investigate and see if I can introduce a setting in the launcher for this.
See https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6725473#post6725473
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